Saturday, March 31, 2012

You say 'Climate Change' I say 'Tomato'


So a friend posted a link to a Huffington Post article declaring Climate Change MUST BE 'Real' because General Motors pulled it's support from some think tank which routinely dismisses the notion...
I'm not so easily convinced.
If you feel as though you must fill your head with HuffPo drivel, here's the link to the article in question - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/general-motors-heartland-institute-climate-change_n_1391217.html
Five people 'liked' her post, complete with her description "GM is In!!!"
Then some fellow we'll simply call 'Steve' posted a comment.. which I probably shouldn't have let get to me.. but it did...  The thread went like this:

  •  Steve - I posted this same article earlier. Now its real.
    It can only be real because a corporation stated it as such.
    This reality is in a new belief category:
    Corporate Consensus Reality

  • Moi - ‎"Decided".. riiight, I'm sure all the bailout money they still haven't paid back had nothing to do with their sudden revelation... At least the 100's of auto dealers who lost their businesses can now breathe a sigh of relief...
     
  •   I especially enjoyed this passage, "Greenpeace has pressured companies to stop funding Heartland, said Kert Davies, Greenpeace's research director."
    Yep cause when I see the word "pressured" my first thought is "oh Yay!!!, They Decided, using all that free will n'stuff..."

    .......kinda like when a bookie sends a couple goons out to smack you in the kneecaps, you 'Decide' to empty your pockets...

  •  Steve - "Heartland has been spreading misinformation to confuse people."
  • Steve - Who can decode Corporate Consensus Reality?
                       Do we rely on it for assurance? Should we?

  • Moi - Seems to me, there's been plenty of misinformation from both sides. And not much in the way of factual evidence.
    I choose not to rely on any consensus opinon... I form my own. Occassionally I'm wrong, usually I'm not. This feels more like t
    he latter. A lot of hot air designed to make richer a handfull of individuals under the guise of a 'cause' which is neither provable or unprovable based on the amount of  time relevant information has been collected.
    Perhaps designed soley to drive manufacturing industry from this country to force volumes of people to become more and more dependent on the state.. or merely to improve stock portfolios by enlarging companies which exist outside of our borders, where none of the regulations we have are even recognized.
    The way I see it, the climate has always been changing, sometimes it's warm at odd times of the year. Sometimes it's unseasonably cold... sometimes similar patterns repeat a couple years in a row and then change dramatically the next...
    Seems just as likely that the calendar we use is 'off'...Last I heard there were no markers in space, no points to verify precisely how long it takes the earth to travel around the sun.. could it be that the path is different each time..? ever tried drawing a cicle fifty times without a compass..? it's not easy to follow the same line, can be quite time consuming... sometimes your circles look more like eggs... isn't it just as likely the earth's path changes, even if only slightly, with each revolution..? a slight wobble here, a deviation there... a few thousand years later and suddenly people start noticing inconsistencies...
    Seems to me, distance from the sun could just as easily explain the so-called 'ice age'... just as much as droughts, Seems to me, there are any number of reasonable, rational.. if not logical, theories... but that's all they are.. theories. None yet, more provable than another....
    So, no... I'm not sold on any consensus.


  • ....As of the time of this posting, there have been no further comments or repudiations. No challenges to my comments.. no disagreements to my offerings... Let's see if that changes overnight, shall we..?